First Moon Landing 1969 Videos

flatsignedbooks Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - yes, I am waiting too! Man some folks just never learn!

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - are you aware that Grissom SON say that he believe NASA murdered them ?

mattithyahu Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - If my dad died working at NASA I might be a little mad too. Doesn't mean he is correct.1plue8 do you EVER actually refute anything of the science we have given to you? Or will you continue to assert your speculations that aren't based in reality?

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - It clearly mean that he have the strongest suspicions about NASA at the very least .

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - as for the science i should refute , be aware that the two last time i used 'science' (let's call it that...) in the form of official numbers by NASA to prove the apollo missions radiations figures faked (by making estimations based on these official nasa numbers) i got two answers that looked like this (i resume) :"well 1plus , your misunderstanding of this , and your preconceived ideas of that , make your undecutades guess of this , irrelevant"one dared to refute them and failed tough.

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - not undecutades guess but uneducated ...

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - and now that i think about it , it was echard110 that tried to refute them .unfortunately he used BFO (blood forming organs) dose making his counter argument invalid , and as far as i remember he never answered again on that topic once i pointed that mistake to him , i wonder if it was an admition that he was lost , or if he just didn't saw my reply , anyway ...

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Plus for what its worth. Maybe it's not wise to tell someone what they do & dont believe. So if you feel I deserve a rebuke for over stepping some boundry I would understand. That being said, you seem fairly bright & read up on some things. But facts are facts & I'm not sure you belive all you post. So if you changed your mind I would never, that's a promise, never taunt you. I would hate to see a friend miss out on what the Apollo program meant & how it shows us what people can accomplish.

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - i will release you of this then hutchinson , you are completly free to taunt me as long as you see fit , since i will never be bored of the truth (that's on my side on that issue) and i will never miis on what you currently think the apollo missions were.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Aside from periodic demonstations of my dopey sense of humor on this thread, I have posted non-government statistics, studies, findings & periodicals. In addition to keep the discussion from turning into something like "my opinion vs. someone elses" I have also posted non-gov bibliographies so that the info wasn't seen as gov propaganda & others could read, study & benefit from them. Radiation reports, basalt & KREEP studies, observatory retroreflection annotations ect have been included.

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - do you have the radiations report on the doses and/or dose rates of the supposed zond5 soviet probes that allegedly gone beyond our magnetosphere and around the moon ? knowing that the only decently sized animal on that probe was a super radiations resistant testudo horsefieldi ? (search : tortoise blood fight radiation sickness)

Jimbacsi Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - plus, I don't care if Grissom's dog believed he was murdered...I care about evidence!

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - If you never challenge an official story , so you're doomed to suffer from every single fraud commited by highly placed criminals , the ones that can wear the 'officials' suits , the ones that are 'authority' on x subjects.if there is a dog there , it would be you jimbo , a servile dog ready to bite as soon as your masters are put in trouble , no matter how hard can be these masters on you later on , you will never see it .

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Yes, first go to Nasa Technical Report Server.Then place this in the search:"Cosmic radiation measurements obtained by Soviet Zond and Luna space probes."(Make sure you view the "pdf" file.That should work. Also the following numbers might be helpful to you as well.2.Accession Number: 67N39322; Document ID: 19670029993; Report Number: NASA-CR-88982, ST-CR-IS-10655

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - no zond 5 , you've been abandonned by NASA itself hutchinson , they refuse to keep traces of biological measurements outside earth magnetosphere (and around the moon) because it would be so damaging for them to compare with apollo that it would be suicidal.

mattithyahu Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - "If you never challenge an official story , so you're doomed to suffer from every single fraud commited by highly placed criminals , the ones that can wear the 'officials' suits , the ones that are 'authority' on x subjects."The official story has been challenged numerous times! It just happens to hold up under scientific scrutiny.

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - it seems they have something that might be relevant to this (but this one isn't free you must pay 10 dollars , and i will never pay 10 dollars to NASA even under torture so ...) the name is , Biological investigations in outer space, Zond-5.surely their same bullshit about how the turtle loss 10% of his weight (seems healthy out there...) and since its translated and held by nasa , there is no doubt that they will match any eventual numbers with their apollo ones anyway.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - No I am being quite sincere when I tell I just looked at 9 pages calledTHE AUTOMATIC STATION "ZOND-5" FLEW AROUND THE MOON AND RETURNED TO EARTHRETURKEII TO mrH

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Sorry that was,THE AUTOMATIC STATION "ZOND-5" FLEW AROUND THE MOON AND RETURNED TO EARTH

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Publication Date: Sep 26, 1968 Document Source: CASI Online Source: View PDF File Document ID: 19680026482 Accession ID: 68N35954

1plus8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - read it , no mention of radiations on that one , it's focused on the re-entry speed trajectory and temperature.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - In one instance, HeLa 19 cells increased in size after exposure to space conditions, a change which appeared to be genetically stable. HeLa 19 cells which were carried on six separate space flights showed a higher viability than corresponding cultures which were exposed only once aboard Zond.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Space flight factors appeared to affect the state of episome systems of bacteria, as judged by data obtained with F-Lac+ donor cells which also carried genetic markers for threonine and leucine. Observations on phage induction are discussed and compared with results obtained aboard Biosatellite 2. A number of monolayer cultures of human cells (HeLa cells, fibroblasts, and A-1 cells) were repeatedly exposed to the space environment.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Lysogenic strains of Escherichia coli were exposed to space conditions aboard the flight of Zond 5 and Zond 7.

1957hutch Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Experiments with micro-organisms and human cell cultures in the Zond 5 and Zond 7 flights.[My paper] N N Zhukov-Verezhnikov, M N Volkov, I N Maisky, N I Rybakov, M A Guberniev, I I Podoplelov, A N Kulagin, E D Aniskin, K D Rybakova, N I Sharyi, I P Voronkova, P P Saxonov, V Y Kopyev, V V Antipov, V A Kozlov, G P Parfyonov, V I Orlovsky USSR.