Added: Nov 18, 2008

From: TheAutoChannel

Duration: 8:59

The Auto Channel's ROAD TRIP talks with Pacific Gas & Electric's Judy Ho about its electric concept car. For more info about alternative fuel vehicles and all cars visit TheAutoChannel.com.

Channel: Autos

Tags: alternative  electric  energy  hybrid  plug-in  prius  toyota 


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SBha30 Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - EV cars have a much stronger value proposition than what she and mention. She also mentioned that charging at night is generated by cleaner sources and that is why it is cheaper -- WRONG. It is off peak hours. EV technology is truly embarking a period of technological development that would be disruptive technology for the combustion engine driven powertrain systems. Thanks for the post.

GaiusVidar Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:35, yes please dont buy a EV priusand get better gas milage because you could run over a blind person. OR, you could actually pay attention to signs and the road when you drive.

TehRealMayo01 Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - you might buy less gas.. but doesnt your electric bill go up a lot?

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - mr2ya> electric only yes, not a hybrid95% car usage driving range is less than 60 miles BUT occasionally (say 5%) long trips are a must. To make an EV-car worthy for this, you need a HUGE and EXPENSIVE battery just for rare necessities (5%), fraction of which will be used for 95% travelIn a plug-in hybrid, you need a SMALL and relatively CHEAP battery for daily electric miles (95%) and small ICE range extender for long travels (5%).Do you now see what is the feasible option?

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - I've always known the option, its called alternative fuel, ethanol is the best bet, because we can make it, doesn't come from the ground. now are going to try to tell me why ethanol is bad? because I know the unbais answer. and its not what mainstream media will tell you. So tell me whats wrong with it?

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - soulless, and most dont care

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - mr2ya> ethanol is the best bet [...] whats wrong with it1. Energy returned to energy invested (EROEI) factor for biofuel is virtually 1 so it's not a NEW energy source. You need a lot of energy (oil included) to plant, fertilize (make fertilizers), harvest and transform it. It prevents no energy shortage problems, works only when subsidized2. You need to use all arable areas on Earth (=no more food) to satisfy a small fraction of global oil demandStart reading theoildrum

xxxbdboydstyxxx Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Prius 2 millions units sold!!!! Gmc hibrids,,,,,, 70.000!!! lolToyota NUMBER 1!!!!! GMC number 2!! =[Toyota 3 brands and hold most of the market,,,GMC 7!!!! 7 BRANDS aND CANT EVEN GET ON TOP! =[No more to say, the people has spoken, number talk bythemself.

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - As i suspected. you need to learn from somebody who knows whats going on. books, movies, and other for some reason want to give this a bad name. #1 energy is neede to make most all energy. #2 doesn't need to be from corn or suger alone #3 its basically moonshine, hillbillies did it forever, so america can afford it too, #4 who is telling you, you need alot of energy? #5 knowone ever said any one thing will take %100 place of oil, atleast not yet. screw the globe this is for us.

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - #6 oil is only needed for the tractor, which could be converted to run on Ethanol.#7 algea can double in size over night, and will probably be one of the leading forms.#8 this can be used on normal cumbustion engine, with some mods. so existing engines can be converted, and not selling us on new cars we cant afford.find a engineer to explain all this better, i dont have the vocab to get the job done over the interweb.

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Do you know how moonshine is made?

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - mr2ya: > you need to learn from somebody who knows whats going onStop it. I read enough scientific and analytical articles on theoildrum> energy is neede to make most all energyRatio matters. Early oil gave you 100 units of energy per 1 unit invested->unbeatable EROEI 100. Currently its 5 so still a source. Biofuels have 1, solve nothing> doesn't need to be from corn or suger aloneEROEI 1 is for best yielding crops

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - > its basically moonshineDon't even compare volume of moonshine needed to make rednecks wasted to volume needed by industry and transportation> who is telling you, you need alot of energyTrue, hence plug-in hybrids> screw the globe this is for usUse all corps in the USA to make biofuel and again a fraction of needs are met> oil is only needed for the tractorTell it millions of American car owners

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Some AGRICULTURE demand though biofuels can meet> algea will probably be one of the leading formsIn theory. Reality is you need to feed the colony with CO2 water solution to achieve serious grow. And there are still technical problems. And the price of such fuel will be very high> this can be used on normal cumbustion engine, with some modsICE is a steaming dog turd, forget it. It wastes 75% of fuel due to heat, only pressure increase propels. Electric motor losses are 15%

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Like i said put down the mag, find a engineer, have him explain what is going on, not many like electric so drop that song and dance about power, we dont care, we want what we want. you REALLY GOT TO FIND SOMEONE TO EXPLIAN THIS, your over doing every point,

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - oil is needed for the tractor for ethanol, you said. you are the problem. spreading the rumor and lies about these things. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, FIND A ENGINEER BUY HIM DINNER AND LET HIM EXPLAIN ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU ARE INCORRECT ABOUT, HE WILL PUT THIS ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU, TRUST ME YOU NEED IT!

theannoyingdogpoo Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - mr2ya> PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,OK, I feel deeply sorry I wasted my time discussing the topic with you. You're just relentless in your points'n'facts-immune attitude. Go believe in your no-new-energy biofuel and start starving for the sake of satisfying a small fraction of oil demands. Me, on the other hand, I'll grab a plug-in hybrid.BTW, I have MSc from a technical university.

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Im sorry you go spreading lies about something you dont understand, just because the mags and movies tell you so. The biggest point i waited to tell you was the government and oil corps are gearing up to change over to Ethanol, so i guess your gonna grab a ehtanol car before its all over, HAHA. Never once said Ethanol was new. This small fraction you keep talking about, Gee I wonder if the oil corps know that. HAHA LOL. And why the hell would i starve, you cant be seriuos?

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - I think its more like 500000

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - DUDE! if one farmer does then a fraction is met, why do think only one person will be doing this. wake up man!its moonshine. means that is the process not the shiners are going to supply us all. why do you take the most drastic look at everything. solve nothing! i think making our on fuel will solve alot, no more ppl trying to blow us up because we take thier oil. you can make more power with a Ethanol engine than gas, plz tell me im wrong, so i can explain that to you also.

mr2ya Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - you keep answering statements i dont make. WHY IS THAT.

ashkanlion23 Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Well what if I wanted to install a subwoofer or a sound system, which would drain the battery like crazy!!!! or use the A/C (which runs on the battery pack in the Prius) Or what if I lived somewhere where i got "dirty energy" (ie. from coal) and I couldn't afford solar panels, like most middle class North Americans? That would offset the whole point of the electric car. She didn't answer these questions. And I hate the fact that she drove like a retarded geriatric, going 20km/h on a main road

veektur93 Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - this man is an idiot

cstavro Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - dogpoo: gas ice are 35+% efficient. diesels are just over 40% - mainly because of the turbo. hcci will offer diesel-like efficiency. complicated transmissions eat ~15% power. so about 33% power to the ground at best.electric motors can be up to 97% efficient (honda ima eg.) a single gear transmission loses around 5%. the inverter is 96%. so it transmits 85+% power to the GROUND.who drives with the sub blasting like a retard?! normal listening level - 90 dB -uses 1 W!

flybikes90 Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - really...