Added: Jul 7, 2008
From: peglegsam
Duration: 4:42
Rainbow Quest with Pete Seeger (No. 16)
Channel: Music
Tags: dulcimer farina folk mimi pete quest rainbow richard seeger
Rating: 4.95 (93 ratings) Views: 26641' favoriteCount='272 Comments: 65
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - My username becomes very pertinent.I should state that not all of my comments involve the digestive system.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Alright, being serious now.It's touching to imagine Thomas Pynchon watching these videos-- although he probably hates computers-- and remembering his old friend. I read somewhere that at one point he had suspicions that the FBI, or some other part of the Government, had a hand in Farina's death.
LighthouseLil Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - They were so magnificant together! Thanks for the vidoe, I can add it to my collection... It was Richard's dulcimer that I was drawn to when I saw them in Big Sur backin 64? at a rest stop somewhere.. So tragic, the music they could have made together!
Cinders29 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - They were so beautiful, Richard and Mimi. His death was a blow to us when we were young and idealistic.
buyaduck Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Richard Farina was best friends with Thomas Pynchon and I met Mimi once years after Richard died, at the Bitter End. She was beautiful and a great singer. Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to ME!!!!
garozelle Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - These musicians are Americans of Mexican extraction. Their music was of the American Folk Revival of the 1950's and 60's, which also included Roots Blues as well. American Folk Music. Done by those looking to expand their horizons by exploring the old and the new. They were not automatons just responding to what was the latest trend or what would make it on TV or CD. This is neither Caucasian nor outdated. It was "old-time music" when they performed it. That was the whole point. Try to Learn.
GammatronTriode Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - when this was recordedwho would have thought that Pete would out live Richard and Mimithank you so very much for posting thisit's so good thatit brings tears to my eyes
RoseLily69 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - "Young and Idealistic" humm too bad that the consensus among many is that Idealism is something that is adolescent...and lost with age. NEVER let go of the truth or compromise your beliefs!
KennBurch Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - I think he was just concentrating hard on the song and getting the dulcimer part right.
Cinders29 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Maintaining your principles and beliefs is not the same as idealism. To refuse to change is to refuse to grow. Idealism is easier the less you know about how the world really works, that's why it usually emerges during adolescence. The rest of us try to live as authentically as we can. But the fact is that the world doesn't look or feel like it did 45 years ago. The world needs idealists, so carry the flag, RoseLily. I've got your back.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Not Caucasian, huh? So this musical style comes from... Africa? East Asia? The middle east? Siberia? No, this is archetypal white-person music. The monotonous rhythm (no syncopation, no swung notes), harmonic and melodic austerity, lack of melisma, the unchanging stress pattern, and the F'ing dulcimer chords peg it as such. None of that stuff is bad. But if you knew much about music, you'd know that those technical aspects distance it completely from black music.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - You seem to have mistaken my neutral observation as a critique. All I said was that this kind of music would never air on present-day television. I don't think that's arguable. I mean, maybe the history channel, but American Idol or VH1? No way. And I think the reason for that is that pop music has gone further and further away from whiteness.Also, RF was Cuban-Irish in ancestry, not Mexican. He might have lived in Mexico at some point.
KennBurch Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Actually, Richard Farina was of Cuban-Irish ancestry, while Mimi was of Mexican-Scottish descent, to be precise.
tedwinward Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Very few of you are speaking about the music on its own merits. The song itself is beautiful--the performance is remarkable. Let's not lose that amidst the noise of the comments section, eh? Note to "GammatronTriode": I believe Mimi is still with us--unless I have missed something very, very recent, perish the thought--and I have her among my connections on myspace. Mimi, we love you. Yes, we still have Pete too, and I'm thankful.
tedwinward Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - I correct myself about Mimi. True regrets about her passing!
campocat Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Holy Mole' This is amazing Richard and Mimi mean the world to me in every way possible. That might seem funny but they touched me to my DNA. I styled my duo in a small way in their image in 1965 in honor of Richard. Mimi if you are still with us I would just like to say thank you for the magic.
msgarratt Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - mimi baez farina was joan baez' sister. there was a poster available in the 60's of them and their other sister sitting together, crosslegged on a sofa, looking very sultry. the caption read "girls say yes to boys who say no" referring to draft resistance. i bought my first guitar after hearing "bold marauder"
Niamhdm78 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - what type of dulcemer is this? I assume that's what instrument it is. Not sure????
pigeatinginfidel Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Observation? That didn't sound very neutral to me, full of decriptive words that impart a sort of negativity: monotonous, austere, lack. How about the obverse in describing black music: garish melodic warbling, overreliance on rhythm and syncopation, embarassing excesses of melisma...All of that to compensate for the vacuousness of the lyrics. What does black music sing about? Sex, killin niggaz, and da hos.Heh, give me "austere" music that is rich in poetry and ideas anyday.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - If you want poetry, there's plenty of little books that have pages and pages of it inside. You can sit in air-conditioned rooms and stick your head over them.We're talking about music here. All music says things, regardless of whether there's WORDS strung over it for you to latch onto.Now go be paranoid about Muslims.
pigeatinginfidel Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - All music says things, but some say it better? That's your point. That's why the descriptive words you chose for this kinds of music were overwhelmingly negative.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - What do you mean "say IT better"? Different things can be said. And I do prefer certain musics (in general) to others, but my original point was only to make a historical observation. I wasn't being negative until the post you quoted.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Still, despite the negativity I think the phrases I used to describe the song were accurate-- and I bet Farina would've agreed with them. He was intelligent; he probably chose this musical atmosphere to suit the lyrics. Listen to what he's saying: "I am a white destroyer... and we will dress in helmet and sword, and dip our tongues in slaughter... and Christ will be our darlin'" etc. He's talking about White Death in the old European way.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - I like the song, too. It's not my or anyone's place to say a piece of music is 'wrong' or should be a different way. But I can still point things out.
FunnyDigestion Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Also, Richard looks uncomfortable here-- in some way relating, dare I say it, to the intestines.