Added: Jul 7, 2008

From: dmanlol

Duration: 9:19

Live at Teatro Dell'Arte, Milano 10/11/1964Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Tony Williams

Channel: Music

Tags: carter  davis  hancock  herbie  jazz  joshua  miles  ron  shorter  tony  wayne  williams 


Rating: 4.87 (167 ratings)    Views: 79059' favoriteCount='730    Comments: 126

willjazz1 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - i tried looked in the new real book and it just gives them as Dm9 - Dsus9, and not the notes. thanks for everybodys help anyway.

willjazz1 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - As far as i know miles always used to get criticised for his limited technical skill earlier on (espsecially if you compare him to dizzy gillespie), but that was earlier days when he was on heroin, and his style of playing wasn't particularly difficult. later on, when playing with this quintet, and in the seven steps box set he was really good.

padleynj Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - i wish i could...but if that's your only way of expressing yourself then you must be like davis!!

kkpno Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - I'm pretty sure its just quartal voicings (D-G-C, E-A-D)... The NRB just says Dsus9 'cause of the bass figure, but the E quartal voicing is the 9th-5th-root of the chord

puujisan Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Miles sure was no saint, and I totally decry hios treatment of women. That aside, boy, did he ever put together some great groups and put out some great music. To each their own, but Miles 65-68 is my favorite music EVER! "Miles Smiles" still kills me after all this time.

maartenmoesen Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Name one saint that made great records..

cobaltjones Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - People fail to realize that in jazz, there are two important concepts: what you are able to play and what you are able to conceive. Technical players are fairly plentiful in the scene, but visionary players--almost non-existant. Most jazz musicians have an atheletic intelligence--playing in time comfortably with a string of cliches--but few are in a discovery process while playing. This is the key to the rarity of Miles Davis. His eyes are searching for a melody and finding a memorable one.

Whatisthescore Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - wow`i`so`agree!

deadkennedysrock Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - this isnt Miles Davis. This is a super group. I have not seen anything better since. Truly fantastic playing.

izeman458 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Herb Alpert?

TiaJort Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Hello Edunei, Wayne played on a Selmer Super Balanced, Selmer Mark VI and also a Bundy when someone stole his original Selmer Mark VI. He actually recorded several albums on a student model Bundy tenor before Miles Davis purchased another Selmer Mark VI for him in 1964 or 1965 to replace the one that was stolen. Cheers.

cherryorchards Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - damn ron carter must be like 6'7

Edunei Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - Thanxs, I love MK sixs and cheapest and honest horns, in any case, Bundys Buescher era greatest heavy american saxes.Best wishes

joshuasound Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - alice coltrane

oylerck Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - I don't know, I was pretty sure only the bass was on the D and the E, but I haven't listened to the song since then.... I just remember plucking it out on the keyboard like that, so it was also synthetic.

oylerck Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - I just went back to listen again, and I don't believe its just quartal, I've tried that. The first chord sounds thicker and I still hear the F on top. And I'm not hearing parallel motion, I hear the top moving down as the bottom moves up.

coolymac Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - imagine if they started showing live jazz on network TV again? thank goodness for youtube! these guys are in another world. to say miles is a genius is an understatement!!!

cnix1986 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - ian carr wrote in a critique that often miles band was more restricted when miles was soloing..almost tentative to really let it fly and get free...i think you can hear the transition from miles to waynes solo..plus the look on herbies face!...the bio by ian carr is extremely thorough and concentrates largely on the music..

melissblissers Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - ron carter is a negative egomaniac but he's good in this band.

BassThrasher Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - WHAT?!? I'm pretty sure Ron Carter is the exact opposite of an egomaniac.

seamusohanrahan Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - I can see what you're getting at - there is often a massive change in feel when Wayne starts his solo, but I don't think that's necessarily because they all breath a collective sigh of relief when Miles stops. They've both just got very different melodic / rhythmic styles, and I think they complement each other brilliantly. They groove more when Miles is soloing, he is first soloist after all, and then it really veers off into the free feel when Wayne kicks in. All part of their amazing dynamics

the1andonly8 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - im a trumpet player in college and thats how i view jazz as a discovering process... i eventually wanna someday start a group that can play all styles of musik wit a emphasis on be-bop and cool jazz

stretch54 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - tony looks so hip. got that hi-hat foot just swinging. what confidence he plays with. A TEENAGER PLAYING WITH MEN. miles said he was the the center that all of them played off of.

tajto Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - jeez... i heard him speak at berklee once. seemed pretty nice then

godlessbob Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - check out the Herbie Hancock solo sessions from '63 featuring a then 17 yr old Tony Williams...it was Herbie that pushed him towards Miles' groupand the rest is history