BEST ELECTROLYSIS SYTEM WATER SPLITTERS TO REPLAC SPARKPLUGS Videos

sacha4you Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - kratmosphere, although the claim sounds good (and violates 1st law of thermodynamics gracefully), I couldn't find anything useful technical information. Stan Mayers patent is useless, since there are secret parameters required. Even a YT user, who tried to replicate the HHO genrator admitted, that 'no noticible mileage enhancement took place'.For me, it's not a surprise. Even if you took a 100% effective electrolyzer, you couldn't get back more power, you put in.;-))

sacha4you Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - I did it and read: '...The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay the two investors their $25,000. ...'. Note, he patented an efficient electrolysis cell, that comes closer to Farady's law, but NOT a perpetuum mobile.;-))

reaperhatch86 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - you tube search:"Peter Lindemann about Stanley Meyers patent"

sacha4you Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Thanks, but the guy babbles nonsense. As long as i) nobody could replicate his patent, ii) nobody can explain all the paramteters around the magic rods and flying carpets, I'd agree with the court: A fraud.;-))

sentry777 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - It's amazing that he was killed for his invention when it didn't even work!!!... Or did it.

kratomosphere Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Why then was he offered a billion $ to buy his idea? Unless this is a lie too? I understand the law of physics but I am sure laws are made to be broken and continue to be. And are yet to be disproved or approved to be zero point. We are taking this information about the WFC from what we are told. You dont think we were lied to by the big guys instead of stan? This all HEAR-SAY including my perspective. TEXTBOOKS ARE BOUNDRIES> limitations?

sacha4you Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - kratmosphere, it looks for me, you neither understood basic concepts of physics, nor what a proof is. '..he was offered a billion $..'. Unless you can tell who did it an when, you spread rumours. And Meyer did lie. He is a convicted con man. [See my post below]. ZPE is fluctuating energy that balances out to zero over time. You can only borrow energy from vacuum, but not harvest it. If one could do that, we had a positive feedback, what collapsed universe. Physical laws are found and not ...

sacha4you Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - ... (ff) legislated. Hence you can't 'break' them as legal laws, but you can extend it. The only electrolysis process, that (apparently) beats Faraday's law, is the aquafuel(tm) plasma process, that harvests internuclear binding energy (magnetic momentum) - on the expense of the creation of a sort of degenerated atoms with changed physical and chemical properties. Not a very healty thing, when these atoms ar built into chemical compositions that end up in our body.;-))

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Would you? I think you would have less water and eventually run out. How much energy does Hydrogen have? Is this energy being used? If you had gasoline with a contaminate in it and you used a process to remove it; wouldn't this be the same? How much energy is put in an hydrogen bomb and how much comes out? Does water have stored energy in the form of hydrogen? Would you be using electrical energy to release the stored hydrogen energy? Somebody please answer these questions as I am curious

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - "If the exhaust is water, that means it can be fed back into the water fuel tank, thus you have perpetual motion!" Really?

lirothen Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - there is always lost energy though, to move the water, so it isn't completely perpetual

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - If one had to use 10-30 amps from a car battery to power a filtration system so that the gasoline would burn, wouldn't this be similar? How much stored energy is in hydrogen? Does water have stored energy that we are filtering use electricity? It is not a perpetual motion machine because if you used the water from the exhaust to fill the HHO generator you would eventually run out. How much energy goes into detonating a hydrogen bomb and how much comes out?

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - If one were to disconnect the fuel pump and use the power to make the hho generator generate 5 LPM in a 4 cylinder car would you have enough gas? Would retarding the timing 40 degrees help it burn better? What else would you need besides a smaller throttle body, variable frequency drive attached to the throttle position sensor, two presser valves with electronic relays; to make the throttle not so sluggish when you push the gas peddle?

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Why would someone want a HHO car put into production right now? Our economy would be ruined. This is something that should be slowly fazed in over time. You could convert your house furnace over as well. North America is in a bad recession. This technology would be devastating if it went into production immediately... I still need some help with making the throttle work better.

kratomosphere Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - No I think the opposite. Oil is a big part of the recession. Less money we have to spend to the oil companies and the intl. bankers the more it can go to supporting LOCAL economy.

russlehman Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Wow! Another scammer, and lots of ignorant people that believe him.

TheMisterP Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - An unfortunate realization.

TheMisterP Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - This isn't a scam, Do your homework, I have driven one. The only "GIMIC" here is water and steal and/or iron don't get along. Retrofitting a modern petrol fueled engine would be unrealistic from a financial standpoint. Several auto manufacturers are using ceramic coated internals in the engine thus preventing rusting. The amount of machine work required would be overwhelming.

TheMisterP Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - If you want free gas for your car, Buy an old diesel with two tanks, you can run on straight veggie oil, like I do. The second tank has ethanol mixed in so the truck is easier to start however it can start on just oil. About 23% better economy and 27% more HP. All you need is some cheep refining materials and some reusable fuel filters. Last year I spent just over $300 in fuel for 35 thousand miles.

coffeebuzzz Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Your economy is in trouble because you continue to spend trillions of dollars on securing oil in foreign countries. Ford and GM are going down the tubes because of the price of oil, nothing more. If ignorance was taxable, the USA would be a goldmine!

dtbakerqwe123ou Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Same old story the pharmaceutical companies use..."Should be demonstrated in this car within twelve months."Bullshit.

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Lol "economy in trouble" I live in Canada Alberta. It has one of the strongest economy's in North America... and it's based largely on oil.... Like most of the industrialized world. If there was no demand for oil we would go into a worldwide economic depression. This technology works great, but has to be slowly phased in; such as in the HHO boosters. What's scary is how easy a car can be converted over to run solely on water. Although the important info to do this is very hard to find.

isreasontaboo Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - I think someone needs a lesson or two in thermodynamics. Saying that you can run a car on water is like saying you could run it on CO2. H2O is the "burned" hydrogen just like CO2 is burned carbon. It is the end-product only and contains less energy than the input products. Making hydrogen from water REQUIRES energy and burning it to make water (and move your car) releases that energy. This guy allegedly made what is called a "perpetual motion engine" which is a fallacy of course.

DominickBlack Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - Do you know where to find it?

violentpumpkin1 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - There is also a design for a motor that uses some of the energy created by the vacuum when the atoms recombine to create h2o. Info for machines that work in these fields are very hard to find. Electrolysis by the exact definition will not work to power a car. Pulsing electricity and using radio waves to split molecules may. I have found the information looking on the net. Utube doesn't have it. I think there is a reason for this. Parahydrogen & Orthohydrogen you need both.