Added: Sep 6, 2008
From: troshan
Duration: 6:49
Compilation of clips showing the stark contrast between the muslims and christians during the crusades.
Channel: Entertainment
Tags: allah christians crusades islam muhammad muslims
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Pilatocus28 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Western Christendom and Byzantium had been defending its lands for centuries from Islamic armies prior to the First Crusade. Both polities of Europe viewed the Crusade as a defensive war. In response to BuSalhi, the Umayyads almost took over most of Europe if it had not been for Charles Martel defeating them at the Battle of Tours/Poitiers in 732. They planned to subjugate Christian kingdoms to Shariah law.
Pilatocus28 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Various incursions over centuries led to rising animosity towards the Dar al-Islam from Christian kingdoms. In 638, Muslim armies conquered Jerusalem, ending the Byzantine rule of the city. In 711, the Umayyad Caliphate moved her armies into Spain and in 1009 al-Hakim ordered the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. The Byzantine Empire was weakened by the Seljuk Turks after Manzikert in 1071 and the subsequent deposition of Romanus Diogenes IV.
Pilatocus28 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - The new Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I set out to revive his empire and asked for aid from the west. The council of Piacenza in 1095 prompted Pope Urban II to call for the Crusade in the west. The Turks by that time conquered Nicomedia and were on the doorstep of Constantinople.
DaDrunkIrishman666 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - The christians consistently won more battles in the crusades than the muslims. the only wayh the muslim armies could in was through starvation or sheer numbers.-hattin, jerusalem, while even with their numbers they still lost battles like arsuf- the catholic church was the strongest miiitary and religious power at the time
EdwardMerriman360 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Just look at how religion has to become war.There were many good things imposed by religions of all kinds as well as atrocities but of course history is full of lies so the truth is very hard to excavate.Peace be with all religious people who live side by side with each other.It is strange to find that those of the Hindu and Buddha are far more compatable to humanity than Christianity, Judaism or Islamism.
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - WRONG
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - When a Muslims tells you that the word "Allah" has only one meaning: "the one, true, universal God," he is assuming a fallacy. The word "allah" has many different meanings. a. It can be used as a generic term like the English word "God." Thus it can be applied to any god or goddess regardless if a true or false god is in view. (ex. The "Allahs" of Hinduism.)
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Contb. The Nation of Islam uses it to refer to Wallace Dodd Ford, Elijah Muhammad, and Louis Farrakhan as "Allah" and teaches that all black people are "Allahs." c. It has been used by some Christians in Arabic speaking countries as a generic name for the Holy Trinity. d. It was used in pre-Islamic times by pagan Arabs to refer to the moon-god who was the father of al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat.
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - e. It is used by Muslims to refer to their god. Islam and Christianity do not worship the same God. The Christian worships the Holy Trinity while the Muslim worships a unitarian deity. 6. The Fallacy of Force: The Qur'an commands Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and apostates (Surah 5:33; 9:5, 29).
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - contSome Muslims use a false analogy to answer this argument. They respond by saying, "Well, what about the Crusades? You Christians use violence just like Muslims." It is logically erroneous to set up a parallel between Muslims killing people in obedience to the Qur'an and Christians killing people in disobedience to the Bible. While the Qur'an commands Jihad, the New Testament forbids it.
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - 7. The Fallacy Of Confusing Questions of Fact with Questions of Relevance: Whether something is factually true is totally different from the issue of whether you feel it is relevant. The two issues must be kept separate.
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - The present meaning of a word is irrelevant to what it meant in ancient times. The word "Allah" is a good example. When confronted by the historical evidence that the word was used by pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times to refer to a high god who was married to the sun-goddess and had three daughters, some Muslims will quote dictionaries, encyclopedias, etc. to prove (sic) that "Allah means God."
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - They are thus using modern definitions to define what the word meant over a thousand years ago! What "Allah" means now has no bearing on what it meant before Muhammad. hmmm?
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - The average Muslim has been deceived by Muslim apologists who use such logical fallacies without regard to reason, fact or honesty. But there are many Muslims who want to be rational in their religion and thus have an open mind to rational discourse. Once they see that their arguments are based on logical fallacies, they will be open to the wonderful news that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for our sins on the cross.
Gatta9 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Read my poston ISLAM from bottom to top
boushra99 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - that last part is simply beautiful.
FLPman Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - i'm just so tierd of all this self righteous preechy bullshitters. I think it's blasphemous to even assume you comprehend the word and intentions of an omnipotent god.I think you further perpetuate the barriers between the religions when you assume to fully comprehend their teachings b/c you googled some shit and then plug your own religion as the right vs the wrong. I think it's sad we can't see a bigger picture of life yet.
AvalonTempest Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - WRONG RasenganPwn. The pope started the war, urging the Christians to capture the holy city of Jerusalem - the Muslims didn't even know what was coming. And the Christians weren't even defending a country, they were invading it. The Muslims didn't take a step into Europe.
OldieLov3r13 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - what is this movie called
tompinoyger Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - spain was conquered by the muslims around 700 ad. won back by the conquestadores around 1400 ad
Konfuszius Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Kingdom of Heaven. But note that the story is just fictive. The historic backround is rather small. But is true that the europeans were savages in those times and the muslims learned the concept of a "holy war" from the bloodthirsty crusaders.
RasenganPwn Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Aha...the city of jerusalem..the holy city of the Christians...took by the muslim..will the Christians just sit by doing nothing while their holy land get captured...no... but YES..Pope did the right thing...the land of the Saviour fall to the other hand...will he just sit and do nothing...of course no!
Coolioitbro Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - No wrong the christians attacked the muslims not the other way around.
Coolioitbro Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - The Muslims also helped the Christians by bringing them food and fresh water "during the war" in their time of need.
BillDFC Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - Complete bloody waste of human life.